Showing posts with label Second Round. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Second Round. Show all posts

Monday, June 25, 2007

NBA Draft Stuff

The draft is coming up very fast (thursday of this week). A couple of months ago I made the decision to do a sort of draft consensus spreadsheet to try and keep track of the fluctuations that would occur during the lead up to the draft. Of course, that never happened... but I have decided to run one now, with 5 days to go before draft night and to compare it to the one that was put together 2 months ago.

It's a pretty simple thing - just plug in the mock draft listings from 6 different mocks, add up the numbers and then divide it by the number of mock drafts used to come up with an 'average'. The mock drafts used are: draftexpress.com, nbadraft.net, insidehoops.com, collegehoops.net and realgm.com. Here are the results as of today.

Pick Team Player Score
1 Trailblazers Greg Oden C 1.00
2 SuperSonics Kevin Durant SF/PF 2.00
3 Hawks Al Horford PF/C 3.33
4 Grizzlies Mike Conley Jr PG 5.33
5 Celtics Brandan Wright PF 5.50
6 Bucks Jeff Green SF/PF 6.83
7 Timberwolves Corey Brewer SF 7.00
8 Bobcats Joakim Noah PF/C 7.33
9 Bulls Yi Jianlian PF/C 9.00
10 Kings Spencer Hawes C 9.17
11 Hawks Al Thornton SF/PF 11.50
12 76ers Julian Wright SF/PF 13.33
13 Hornets Nick Young SG/SF 13.50
14 Clippers Javaris Crittenton PG 14.00
15 Pistons Acie Law PG 15.00
16 Wizards Thaddeus Young SF/PF 15.83
17 Nets Rodney Stuckey PG/SG 17.00
18 Warriors Jason Smith PF/C 18.17
19 Lakers Josh McRoberts PF/C 21.17
20 Heat Tiago Splitter PF/C 21.33
21 76ers Derrick Byars SG/SF 21.83
22 Bobcats Daequan Cook SG 22.40
23 Knicks Rudy Fernández SG 22.50
24 Suns Marco Belinelli SG 23.67
25 Jazz Sean Williams C 24.17
26 Rockets Morris Almond SG/SF 26.67
27 Pistons Gabe Pruitt PG 29.60
28 Spurs Alando Tucker SF 30.67
29 Suns Jared Dudley SF/PF 31.33
30 76ers Arron Afflalo SG/SF 31.40




31 SuperSonics Marcus Williams SG/SF 32.60
32 Celtics Petteri Koponen PG 33.00
33 Spurs Wilson Chandler SF/PF 33.00
34 Mavericks Nick Fazekas PF/C 33.33
35 SuperSonics Taurean Green PG 34.33
36 Warriors Aaron Gray C 34.50
37 Trailblazers Kyrylo Fesenko C 36.20
38 76ers Glen Davis C 38.00
39 Heat Marc Gasol C 38.00
40 Lakers Zabian Dowdell PG/SG 38.67
41 Timberwolves Aaron Brooks PG 41.00
42 Trailblazers Jared Jordan PG 41.00
43 Hornets Demetris Nichols SF 42.00
44 Magic Reyshawn Terry SF 42.00
45 Clippers Dominic McGuire SF/PF 42.20
46 Warriors Ramon Sessions PG 42.20
47 Wizards Ron Lewis 43.00
48 Lakers Kyle Visser C 43.80
49 Bulls Bobby Brown 46.67
50 Mavericks Trey Johnson SG/SF 47.00
51 Bulls D.J. Strawberry SG 47.75
52 Trailblazers Carl Landry PF 48.25
53 Trailblazers Zoran Erceg PF/C 49.00
54 Magic Stanko Barac C 49.50
55 Jazz Quinton Hosley SF 50.00
56 Bucks Ali Traore PF 50.20
57 Pistons Renaldas Seibutis SG 50.25
58 Spurs Stephane Lasme 50.50
59 Suns JamesOn Curry SG 51.33
60 Mavericks Russell Carter SG 53.00

This is what it looked like a couple of months ago:

Pick Team Consensus Pick
1 Portland Greg Oden C
2 Seattle Kevin Durant SF/PF
3 Atlanta Brandan Wright PF
4 Memphis Al Horford PF/C
5 Boston Yi Jianlian PF/C
6 Milwaukee Joakim Noah PF/C
7 Minnesota Mike Conley Jr PG
8 Charlotte Corey Brewer SF
9 Chicago (via NYK) Roy Hibbert C
10 Sacramento Jeff Green SF/PF
11 Atlanta (via Indy) Julian Wright SF/PF
12 Philadelphia Spencer Hawes C
13 New Orleans Al Thornton SF/PF
14 LA Clippers Acie Law PG
15 Detroit (from Orl) Thaddeus Young SF/PF
16 Washington Nick Young SG/SF
17 New Jersey Josh McRoberts PF/C
18 Golden State Rudy Fernández SG
19 LA Lakers Tiago Splitter PF/C
20 Miami Javaris Crittenton PG
21 Philly (from Den) Rodney Stuckey PG/SG
22 Charlotte (From Tor) Marco Belinelli SG
23 New York (via Chi) Derrick Byars SG/SF
24 Phoenix (from Cle) Jason Smith PF/C
25 Utah Ante Tomic C
26 Houston Brandon Rush SG/SF
27 Detroit Marcus Williams SG/SF
28 San Antonio Morris Almond SG/SF
29 Phoenix Gabe Pruitt PG
30 Philly (from Dal) Aaron Gray C



31 Seattle (from Mem) Alando Tucker SF
32 Boston Marc Gasol C
33 San Antonio (from Mil) Daequan Cook SG
34 Dallas (from Atl) Arron Afflalo SG/SF
35 Seattle Sean Williams C
36 GSW (from Min) Kyle Visser C
37 Portland Dominic McGuire SF/PF
38 Philadelphia (from Chi) Nick Fazekas PF/C
39 Orlando (via Utah) Jared Dudley SF/PF
40 LA Lakers (via Cha) Glen Davis C
41 Minnesota (via Phi) Herbert Hill PF/C
42 Portland (from Ind) Petteri Koponen PG
43 New Orleans Jermareo Davidson PF/C
44 Orlando Trey Johnson SG/SF
45 LA Clippers Wilson Chandler SF/PF
46 GSW (from NJN) Kyrylo Fesenko C
47 Washington Taurean Green PG
48 LA Lakers Reyshawn Terry SF
49 Chicago (via Phx) Ivan Radenovic PF
50 Dallas (from LAL) Devon Hardin C
51 Chicago (from Den) Aaron Brooks PG
52 Portland (from Tor) Bobby Brown PG
53 Portland (from Chi) Demetris Nichols SF
54 Orlando (from Cle) J.R. Reynolds PG/SG
55 Utah Dominic James PG
56 Milwaukee (from Hou) Stanko Barac C
57 Detroit Ryvon Covile PF
58 San Antonio Marko Thomas SG
59 Phoenix Quinton Hosley SF
60 Dallas DJ Strawberry SG

Saturday, June 9, 2007

NBA Second Round Picks from 1990 to present...

It's coming up on draft time and there is lots of excitement about the potential of the first rounders this year. To me, what is almost equally as interesting is the 'potential' of there being some good players available in the 2nd round of the draft.

Each year, it seems, there are a handful of guys that fall much farther than they 'should'. When you look over the list you see a number of players that carved out a legit career for themselves from the 2nd round (ie. at least got a 2nd NBA contract, if not more). You'll even see a handful of all-stars that slipped through the cracks. So while most say things like 'the 2nd round is a crap shoot' - which i agree with to a large degree - it's still very interesting to me. I like trying to figure out just who might be that 'guy' that slips too far, and ends up being a solid contributor to a good team.

It's a bit early to judge the 2006 draft just yet, however a couple of people seem to have carved out a niche for themselves to date:

47. Paul Millsap
46. Dee Brown
42. Daniel Gibson

Again, it may be too early to write off the class of 2005 right now, but a few guys have stood out to one degree or another:

56. Amir Johnson - added because apparently Detroit loves this kid
50. Ryan Gomes
40. Monta Ellis
37. Ronny Turiaf

2004 has only shown a few guys so far - but all 3 are fringe starters in my mind:

44. Trevor Ariza
39. Chris Duhon
31. Anderson Varejão

2003 was a banner draft year, from top to bottom. While most focus on all of the good players taken in the first round, the 2nd round had alot of talent also - clearly 2003 was indeed one of the best draft classes ever.

51. Kyle Korver
49. James Jones
47. Mo Williams
45. Matt Bonner
43. Keith Bogans
42. Zaur Pachulia
41. Willie Green
38. Steve Blake
32. Luke Walton
31. Jason Kapono

2002 saw a few solid role players, a couple of fringe starters and a star:

53. Rasual Butler
50. Darius Songaila
46. Matt Barnes
42. Ronald Murray
35. Carlos Boozer
34. Dan Gadzuric

2001 included a most improved player winner, 2 all-stars and 2 other solid starters

53. Jarron Collins
46. Loren Woods
42. Bobby Simmons
40. Earl Watson
38. Mehmet Okur
31. Gilbert Arenas
30. Trenton Hassell

2000 had some solid role-players and a star:

44. Brian Cardinal
43. Michael Redd
38. Eduardo Najera
37. Eddie House
33. Jake Voskuhl
30. Marco Jaric

1999 was similar to 2000 in makeup:

57. Emmanuel Ginobili
53. Rodney Buford
47. Todd MacCulloch
43. Lee Nailon
41. Francisco Elson
40. Gordan Giricek
35. Calvin Booth
32. Michael Ruffin

1998 was a pretty good year for 2nd rounders:

58. Maceo Baston
53. Greg Buckner
44. Sean Marks
43. Jahidi White
41. Cuttino Mobley
39. Rafer Alston
36. Jerome James
33. Jelani McCoy
32. Rashard Lewis
31. Ruben Patterson

Not much star power in 1997, but some solid players non-the-less:

55. Mark Blount
48. Alvin Williams
43. Stephen Jackson
40. Anthony Johnson
38. Marc Jackson

Same goes for 1996. Note that 2 of these guys won championships:

54. Shandon Anderson
44. Malik Rose
37. Jeff McInnis
33. Moochie Norris
30. Othella Harrington

1995:

58. Don Reid
52. Fred Hoiberg
47. Tyus Edney
43. Eric Snow
34. Andrew DeClercq

1994:

54. Zeljko Rebraca
52. Anthony Goldwire
51. Lawrence Funderburke
46. Voshon Lenard
32. Jim McIlvaine
30. Howard Eisley

1993:

47. Chris Whitney
45. Bryon Russell
37. Nick Van Exel
28. Lucious Harris

1992:

42. Matt Geiger
32. Brent Price
30. Sean Rooks
29. P.J. Brown

1991:

48. Isaac Austin
45. Bobby Phills
31. Randy Brown

1990:

48. Cedric Ceballos
45. Antonio Davis
43. Tony Massenburg
40. Bimbo Coles
35. Greg Foster
29. Tony Kukoc